Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA17980 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:31:53 +0100 Subject: Re: the conscious universe Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:28:52 -0400 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20001001192848.AAA26404@camailp.harvard.edu@[204.96.32.187]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi Robin Faichney --
>This is a
>"discovered conceptual truth" -- a matter for philosophy, not empiricial
>science.
A 'discovered conceptual truth'.
Oh, boy.
In what way is this any way to present truth?
Does truth truly need qualifiers?
You have still only shown me a wrapped-around argument, a mobius strip of
riddled sentences. Yes, I am looking for empirical science. Empirical
science _is_ universal- always has been and always will be, world without
end amen. There is nothing so absurd that some philosopher hasn't said
it....
As for what this 'thing' is that we call consciousness, if you're so sure
it's everywhere, let me breathe it.
I do not contend all life has it. I apologize for an unclear referent.
_Some_ life appears to have it, on this planet, to our knowledge.
It is a discovered concept, though, consciousness....
- Wade
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