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On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 09:35:02AM -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> Hi Robin Faichney --
>
> >> The problem remains that the claims of mystics - to have 'felt' the
> >> workings of the inner mysteries of the universe, range far from these
> >> humble health benefits,
> >
> >"The workings of the inner mysteries of the universe" has no clear
> >meaning, and so any claims regarding them cannot meaningfully be
> >assessed.
>
> Let me rephrase then, plugging in the reduced substitution from your post-
>
> The problem remains that the claims of mystics - to have 'felt' the
> consciousness of the universe, range far from these humble health
> benefits....
I've never heard or read anyone claim to have "felt" the consciousness
of the universe. You persist in your delusion that you and the universe
are two different things. The insight is that there's no good reason to
take that view. If you're conscious, the universe is conscious.
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