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On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 09:07:10AM +0100, Douglas Brooker wrote:
>
> > >>>That's like invoking God or different
> > >>>dimensions to foreclose further questioning; a mystical and anti-
> > >>>intellectual response, indeed.
>
> Mysticism as it is used in the western 'intellectual' tradition
> functions as kind of "cooties" - a dismissive mostly rhetorical term
> to be applied to arguments outside of a set of very rigid and
> formalistic discourse requirements.
>
> This use of 'mystic' is sort of the scholarly equivalent of 'nigger' or
> 'faggot' and has little to do with the mystic tradition, whether it is
> western, eastern or islamic. Most unbecoming behaviour!
>
> I like Clifford Geertz's comment (quoting someone else I think) that
> western 'philosophy is a cultural disease - it can be cured.'
I like this definition of mysticism: the elevation of experience over
intellectualization. Says it all, really.
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