Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA28991 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:34:38 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D31017459A3@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: Dolphin philosophy Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:32:27 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi everyone,
I have a question that actually directly relates to my "proper" work (i.e.
that I get paid for), that some of your various expertise may be able to
help me with.
I'm writing a book about journalism, and I am currently writing a brief
section about the historical development of communication. I'm taking it
quite a long way back, and I want to make sure I'm not in Sokal and
Bricmont's next book!
What I want to say, only as an aside in a footnote really, is that human
language is complex to the point where we are able to discuss abstract ideas
like the meaning of life, whilst other animals do not.
Now from previous postings on this list, in the footnote I want to point out
that observations of chimp behaviour both in the wild and of chimps taught
sign language in captivity, offer some evidence that chimps may have
thoughts about life, the universe and everything, but that (in the wild at
least) they don't have discussions about their thoughts.
Then it occured to me that Dolphins do have a quite sophisticated
communication system, and are pretty intelligent, and as far as I know
researchers are still some way from working out whether it constitutes a
language or not. What I want to ask is whether or not there are some
references to work where the issue of what dolphins are talking about (if
they are talking at all), and whether or not its plausible that they could
talk about abstract things like life, the universe and everything, have been
debated?
If anyone can help that would be great.
Vincent
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