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Mark:
It seems the wasp toxin is simply a crude way to perturb the neural system
compared to the efficiency of language.
Derek:
Yes, that is a very good point. If an organism wants to influence the
behaviour of another organism, it can use a variety of methods, among which
we could count neurotropic chemicals and language. The point at which this
becomes culture however, is the point at which the influenced organism
become the influencer of another target organism, and so replication begins.
The wasp-spider system stops at this point as the influenced spider has no
further influence itself over other organisms (trivially, because it's dead,
but also, in the case of the poison being non-fatal, because it cannot
manuafacture the toxin itself - back to genes again....)
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