Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA00953 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:19:15 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745950@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Gender bias for memes Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:16:50 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Only the blissfully oblivious newbies are
>embracing his word salad.
And there was me thinking you were on my side Joe! :-)
Vincent
> ----------
> From: Joe E. Dees
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 1:34 am
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Gender bias for memes
>
> From: "Kenneth Van Oost"
> <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
> To: "memetics" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Subject: Gender bias for memes
> Date sent: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:36:18 +0200
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>
> > Come on boys, let 's stick together,
> >
> > Joe
> Chris
> >
> > male (order) female
> (change)
> > consensus, opportunistic
> >
> > (any perceived weakness in the other (likes the feedback)
> > party is jumped-upon, like the claim
> > Joe makes that Chris violates his own
> > propounded rules)
> >
> His gender, combined with his verbosity and imprecision, does
> indeed provide a counterexample to his gender-bigoted contentions.
> >
> > action, language,
> >
> All we have are words here: it's ALL language.
> >
> > ( 'attacks ' with words_reacts without (is likely to explain
> things,
> > thought of consequence ) is more context aware,
> > ' knows '
> his stuff )
> >
> I question his knowledge of (as opposed to belief in) his "stuff" as
> you call it. And what consequence? Either he can back up his
> assertions, or he can't; either way, something useful is learned.
> > sameness,
> >
> > " trying to make logical sense out of your
> > (Chris) screeds... " is IMHO (Kenneth) a
> > statement likely close to what is by the
> > ' general ' understood for logic. The defi-
> > nition of the term which Joe apllies is
> > violated by Chris, so joe strikes back.
> >
> > Joe, you have to admit, ' accusing ' Chris that his politeness dropped
> like a
> > rock and challenging his concepten in that way (without any attempt to
> dis-
> > cuss the matter) is IMHO_ even fundamentalistic. And expecting as much,
> > betrays a prejudice.
> >
> He has discussed in too many words, while saying little if anything,
> for quite some time now. The cascading concatenation of fuzz
> inundating this list has caused the more serious among us to say
> little, and none of them address Chris. They recognize a memetic
> infection when they see it. Only the blissfully oblivious newbies are
> embracing his word salad.
> >
> > But anyone on this list who has gotten the idea re left/right; sameness/
> diffe-
> > rence must be excited_you and Chris are proovin ' ' live ' that there
> is a gen-
> > der bias for memes.
> > Look at your posts, they stand full of male/ female formulas, responses,
> ex-
> > pressions...
> >
> But we are both (purportedly) male, which DISproves such
> contentions. Try smelling coffee; sometimes it can help.
> >
> > We better argue what is the useful truth of such arguments...in the
> context
> > of the subject please...
> >
> Is racial memetic bias next?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kenneth
> >
> > (I am, because we are) disappointed
> >
>
>
>
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