Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA22293 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:39:36 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745937@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Memes and sexuality Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:37:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Despite being wrong, some do attest to this kind of argument. Howard Bloom
presents this argument in his 'The Lucifer Principle', for example, arguing
that Moslems, for example, tend to be violent societies because they abuse
their kids.
If social violence occurs because of a single cause, it is most likely to be
hierarchies, whether in the family, in the local community, or on the global
scale. Hierarchies are not a product of child abuse, indeed it's more the
other way around.
Vincent
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> From: Wade T.Smith
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> >http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/05_history.html
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> I like it.
>
> I don't have any sides here. I do see a continuing saga, not a sudden
> crest. I do think ignorance is deep in the faultline of abuse.
>
> But, I don't see this- from your citing- "That all social
> violence--whether by war, revolution or economic exploitation--is
> ultimately a consequence of child abuse should not surprise us" - as
> anything but wishful hyperbole.
>
> - Wade
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