From: Kenneth Van Oost (kennethvanoost@belgacom.net)
Date: Thu 02 Feb 2006 - 20:19:31 GMT
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From: Kenneth Van Oost <kennethvanoost@belgacom.net>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:17 AM
Subject: Fw: Sticky Memes/ to Chris
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris Taylor <chris.taylor@ebi.ac.uk>
> >
> > >
> > > To my mind there are two important meme sources for this, which
> > > are (1) memes modelled from experience of the world ('proper'
> > > memes) and (2) memes that pop into existence as a result of
> > > experience alone, whether of the world, or of your sensory
> > > experience of yourself. I imagine low-level (pre)motor programs
> > > that are in essence (i.e. in 'substance') the equivalent of the
> > > memes in your forebrain, but they live elsewhere and differ
> > > somehow; memes that involve imagined action are somehow picked
> > > up by premotor resident patterns (some sort of resonance is the
> > > best I can offer) and passed on to become motor instructions.
> > > Why couldn't the way to touch thumb to forefinger be a 'motor
> > > meme' (abusing the meme name cos these things wold never be
> > > copied -- like comparing email ('proper' memes) to machine code
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > Science writes that ' spatial insight ' is an inborn thread.
> > The Munduruku do not have words in their language to express
> > geometric forms. To find their way in the woods surrounding them
> > they do not use maps where with they could train their ability
> > for spatial and geometric insight in the first place.
> > In several tests it became clear that even without the proper
> > definitions for geometric forms and spatial insight 66,8% knew
> > what the answers were, what is more than 16,6 % higher than
> > that the guys were just guessing away.
> >
> > The investigators speculate that knowledge about geometric
> > concepts can be aproved by cultural mediums, like maps, but
> > that a basic form is inbedded in the architecture of the human
> > brain.
> > Would be the latter the ' pop-up- memes' and the former the
> > proper ones !?
> > If so, how would this relate to what we know now !?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kenneth
> >
>
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