From: Bill Spight (bspight@pacbell.net)
Date: Thu 05 May 2005 - 17:20:22 GMT
Dear Derek,
>>
>> Well, lack of precision does not preclude comparison, it just makes
>> it coarse grained. For example, take this quote from Chaucer:
>>
>> I warne yow wel, it is no childes pley.
>>
>> Eight memes (lexemes), counting 'childes pley' as one, six
>> mutations (including short to long 'i' in 'childes') in over more
>> than 600 years. Millions of replications, at least. That's gotta be
>> slower than the flu, no?
>
>
> 600 years is a mere 20 human generations. 20 flu generations is
> probably less than 60 days. How much does a flu virus mutate in 60
> days?
Well, see my other note, where, from what Barry says, it appears that a
flu virus has over a 99% mutation rate for a single generation.
> In any case, to what extent are orthographical changes
> cultural mutations? Does that not assume that culture is somehow
> coded in language? Couldn't it be coded in something else (eg a
> mentalese?) or not coded at all?
Who is talking about coding? Lexemes replicate, vary, and are
differentially selected. And language is part of culture. Lexemes are memes.
Best,
Bill
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