Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA28874 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:43:40 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D310174590B@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Philosophy of Technology Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:41:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
I really don't see what your big epiphany is that you feel we all need to
accept, Chris.
Humans process information in particular ways that tend to us perceving
meaning in particular ways- so what? Does that negate the notion of
meaning? Are astrology and astronomy the same except that they make us
'feel' different things?
To Elmo, thanks for this question. It seems to me to be very relevant to
this list, as the evolution of technology cannot be genetic in nature, and
must therefore operate by some other process. (Obviously technology has
utility so humans persist with it because it provides adaptive advantage, so
it's not anti-thetical to genetic evolution- it's just the process by which
it persists is different).
Vincent
> ----------
> From: Chris Lofting
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:13 pm
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Cc: Daniel Volkovich; Adam ODonnell
> Subject: RE: Philosophy of Technology
>
> You could always create your own. Take any of the issues you have listed
> and
> dichotomise them into A/~A. This will automatically lead to a
> categorisation
> 'template' to open up with meaning pre-coded at the general level.
> Particularise these and then compare the resulting model with 'out there'.
> It should give you a degree of positive feedback that will lead into
> further
> refinements that can then be opened-up for more intense discussion re
> differences and so expressions of the fundamentals. The feedback goes to
> ensure that you have made the 'correct' A/~A categorisations.
>
> For example (to stay in context of this list), the following link points
> to
> sets of general meanings that emerge by simply making the distinction of
> genes from memes with the determination of genes being the A and memes the
> ~A. We could set the universe of discourse as information transmission or
> whatever.
>
> The point here is that we use the same basic method in analysis/synthesis
> of
> anything; the moment you make a dichotomy a set of pre-coded meanings
> becomes available and you link these together to give you a particular
> thread through this general fabric. Furthermore the full set gives you a
> guide in determining meaning even in what to the universe is meaningless.
> :-)
>
> The link:
>
> http://www.eisa.net.au/~lofting/dichotic.html
>
> best,
>
> Chris.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > Of Elmo Recio
> > Sent: Sunday, 9 July 2000 3:29
> > To: Memetics Mailing List
> > Cc: Daniel Volkovich; Adam ODonnell
> > Subject: RFC: Philosophy of Technology
> >
> >
> > Ok, this may be off topic, but i really cant think of another
> > pool of people
> > more qualified to give me comments on this subject which has been
> > brewing in
> > my head for a while.
> >
> > It has to do with philosophy of technology. The type of study
> > very much like
> > philosophy of religion, or philosophy of science. Where studies can
> cover
> > issues like AI (Metaphysics), Ethical Use (Ethics) and the savants in
> the
> > field (Epistemology.) I don't know if i have something here or
> > not, but it's
> > worth an investigation at the very least.
> >
> > Is there anyone here who would be interested in some off the list
> > discussion
> > about this?
> >
> > -Elmo
> >
> >
> > Elmo Recio; Philadelphia, PA 19103; USA
> > Email: n2wog@usa.net
> > Homepage: http://polywog.navpoint.com
> > Sociology and Philosophy student at Drexel Uni
> >
> > The Digital Millenium Copyright Act: Just one more example
> > of greedy multinationals shovelling the entrails of the poor
> > and disenfranchised into the unslakable maw of the corporate
> > fat cats.
> >
> >
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