From: Liane Gabora (liane@berkeley.edu)
Date: Thu 06 May 2004 - 16:22:02 GMT
I'd like to say a few words regarding the discussion of my paper which came 
up recently on this list. I have been sympathetic to the memetic 
perspective for a long time, and in some ways still am. The paper was not 
something I dashed off quickly, but the result of nearly 20 years of 
reading, writing, and computer modeling devoted to really getting to the 
bottom of the question: how does culture *really* evolve?
Clearly ideas or memes do not consist of, as part of their information 
content, self-assembly instructions (akin to genetic material), which get 
carried out to form new copies. If they did, then for one thing, 
inheritance of acquired characteristics would be prohibited. But we all 
know that ideas or memes can inherit changes as they pass from one person 
to another. If you read this email, you will accommodate it to your own way 
of thinking, if you tell someone about it you will put your own slant on 
it, perhaps garnish it with your own insights&..  It acquires 
characteristics along the way. But that doesn't mean it isn't *evolving*; 
it is undergoing descent with modification after all. So what is going on 
here?
In fact, inheritance through a self assembly code came about in biological 
evolution only after millions of years of inheritance through a more 
primitive, self-organized form of replication, which is more akin to the 
form through which culture evolves. I argue that it is worldviews or minds 
evolving, not discrete ideas or memes, because a worldview constitutes an 
integrated, self-modifying, self-healing structure, and that ideas or memes 
are how a worldview *reveals* or manifests its (ever-changing) structure 
(like a slice through a log reveals something of the internal structure of 
the wood, slicing at a different angle reveals something different&). I 
wont go on to re-write the whole paper here, but just mention that it is 
not a line of reasoning that can be quickly dismissed after light reading 
of the title or abstract, and it is better to read the whole paper before 
leaping to quick assumptions about what it is saying.
Liane
PS The paper can be obtained in reprint form from the Biology and 
Philosophy journal website ( 
<http://www.kluweronline.com/issn/0169-3867>http://www.kluweronline.com/issn/0169-3867 
)
or in html form from my website (below).
Liane 
Gabora    liane@berkeley.edu 
<http://www.vub.ac.be/CLEA/liane>http://www.vub.ac.be/CLEA/liane
Center Leo Apostel for Interdisciplinary Studies, VUB, Brussels Ph: 
(32)2.644.26.77
Psychology Department, UC Berkeley, CA 94720-1650 Ph: 510-642-1080
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