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From: Aaron Lynch
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Cons and Facades
At 02:45 PM 6/15/00 -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
Then again, as Twain said, the finest lie is a carefully measured portion
of the truth.
- Wade
Wade,
Do you think there is a subcurrent in memetics that regards "memetic engineering" as including, among other things, a "new technology" of lying? If so, this could be yet another way for memetic concepts to lead indirectly to a greater frequency of cons and facades in memetics than in other fields.
Guys,
We are not even started the discussion about memetic engineering and there
are already misconceptions it.
Aaron Lynch was right to warn us about people engineering some things for
their purposes, but that is something we see in all of the techniques used
around the world.
Wade T. Smith argument I can agree on though, but it is counting the
chickens before they are hatched. Talking about the cons before we even
had the chance to come up with some pro 's is one hell of a memetic
engineered meme !!
I posted a few ideas on this list concerning memetic engineering towards
Lawrence de Bivort to review.Wade, did you read them !? Even concidered to have a go on them !?
I from my side of the Big Channel I' m still working on the subject.
But I will here state that my intentions are ' true ', I do wish to do honest work.
But I also wish that you give us the time to prove that the idea of memetic
engineering can benefit other people' s needs and not our own.
It is in that direction I do my work, but I do understand that there are mush
trapdoors along the way.
Regards,
Kenneth
(I am, because we are), but I am not sure anymore.
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