From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 26 Sep 2003 - 23:59:55 GMT
From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Roger Scruton Weighs In
Date sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:05:45 -0400
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> Is Joe up to his old anti-semitic attacks and bigotries again? I
> thought the moderators had warned him, and acted on their warnings....
>
There are no old, or new, anti-semitic attacks or bigotries in my
questions; if you can find any, please produce them or retract your
politically motivated slander. Not that I expect you to possess the
personal integrity to do so...you would rather attempt to incite a flame
war in order to obscure the actual issues and forfend an honest and
objective appraisal of them considering ALL the available evidence
(and not just the small biased subset that adheres to the ideology of
your particular 'meme team' (I DO think that's a kewl term, dewde, and it
seems to apply specifically to people such as yourself who get all
emotional and libelously abusive when the more odious of their team's
particular dogmas are subjected to the prospective threat of impartial
scrutiny)). Such behavior is unworthy of this list, but, apparently, not
unworthy of you.
Having said that, I disrespectfully decline to be drawn down into the
gutter of accusatory lies which you seem to be inhabiting; you're just
gonna have to swim around in that slime and much without me. That
sort of behavior would have to rise inestimably in my consideration to
be deserving of my contempt.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On
> > Behalf Of joedees@bellsouth.net Sent: Fri, September 26, 2003 3:37
> > PM To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Roger Scruton Weighs In
> >
> >
> > From: Vincent Campbell <VCampbell@dmu.ac.uk>
> > To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'"
> > <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> > Subject: RE: Roger Scruton Weighs In
> > Date sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:33:28 +0100
> > Send reply to: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >
> > > Just a bit of trivia (oh and an idea of the kinds of sources Joe
> > > thinks is viable),
> > >
> > > Roger Scruton once described my field as 'sub-Marxist
> > > gobbledegook' taught by 'talentless individuals who can't get jobs
> > > in the media.'
> > >
> > > More recently he got chucked off several newspapers after it
> > > turned out he'd been given money by tobacco companies to write
> > > puff pieces for them in his newspaper columns.
> > >
> > > As you can imagine I'm not too open to his views on these or other
> > > matters.
> > >
> > Scruton does seem to be something of a curmudgeon, but it is only
> > logically credible to discredit his ideas on their merits, not to ad
> > hominem attack their author. I could not fail to notice that you did
> > not condescend to do so as far as the article is concerned. BTW,
> > apropos of some ad hominem thing, I guess, what are your complaints
> > concerning Bernard Lewis, Lee Harris, Robert Kagan, Fouad Adjami,
> > Ibn Warraq, Kenneth M. Pollack, Ronald D. Asmus, Daniel Pipes,
> > Graham E. Fuller, Barry Rubin, Robert S. Litwak, Jeffrey Goldberg,
> > Christopher Hitchens, Lawrence Wright, Richard W. Bulliet, Samuel P.
> > Huntington, Robert D. Kaplan, Mark Bowden, etc., etc.? Published by
> > such rags as FOREIGN AFFAIRS MAGAZINE, FOREIGN POLICY, POLICY
> > REVIEW, THE WILSON QUARTERLY, THE NEW YORKER, THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY,
> > etc.?
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: joedees@bellsouth.net
> > > > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:01 AM
> > > > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > > > Subject: Roger Scruton Weighs In
> > > >
> > > > Go to:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.morec.com/hyperion/scruton.htm
> > > >
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