From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu 19 Jun 2003 - 03:51:21 GMT
Date sent: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:32:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Meme definition (was: birthdays)
From: "Wade T. Smith" <wade.t.smith@verizon.net>
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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>
> On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 06:22 PM, Keith wrote:
>
> >> The crux of the matter is that the information must be in a mind in
> >> order for replication to occur.
>
> > For the information to have any *real world consequences*, I
> > completely agree with you it must be in a mind, just like a gene has
> > to be in a cell for it to have real world consequences.
>
> Equine defecations, both of 'em.
>
> For anything to have 'real world consequences' it has to consequent
> the real world- it has to be out here. Information in a mind is
> nowhere but in a mind. What a farce your model is!
>
> The gene in a cell has no real world consequences except to maintain
> the existence of the body it is in. Only when half of this genetic
> material combines with half of the genetic material from the disparate
> sex of the species does change happen. Again, what a farce your model
> is- as if evolution is happening in one organism.
>
> It takes two to tango, and, that means two minds in the real world,
> not one mind with a bunch of useless facts in it.
>
> Hello...?
>
Bovine fecus.
Unless there are multiple minds with different memes (not just facts) in
them, there is nothing that their interaction can replicate, regardless of
external environment or venue, or even any way that they can
meaningfully interact at all.
Wake up and smell the coffee ~~~~
> CI_I
> - Wade
>
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