RE: back to basics

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 28 May 2003 - 22:29:45 GMT

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    > >From: joedees@bellsouth.net
    > >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > >Subject: RE: back to basics
    > >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:00:32 -0500
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    > > > Lawry wrote:
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    > > > <<We have, of course,
    > > > agreed earlier that memetic engineering is not possible.>>
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    > > > Huh?
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    > >What are successful advertizing or political campaigns?
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    > They are successful advertizing or political campaigns respectively.
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    > Advertizing and political campaigns have been around for quite a while
    > longer than memetics. I wonder whether advertizers (or marketing
    > majors) and politicians (or political science majors) could learn much
    > more from memetics or so-called "memetic engineering" than trivial
    > gee-whiz redifinition of what they've been doing for years or if
    > memeticists could learn from these fields how the real world actually
    > works, beyond sterile theorizing based on dubious biological analogy.
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    > After what Dace posted on memetics not being up to par with social
    > psychology and cognitive psychology, I would wonder the same for these
    > fields too. A trivial redifinition of memory (ie- the meme as a
    > subclass of memory) may not add much to the repertoire of memory
    > research than a "Gee-whiz, that's nice. Next!"
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    Memetic transfer existed before the discipline of memetics appeared, just as evolution and genetics operated in the world prior to the human creation of fields of study for these mechanisms.
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