Re: misunderstanding

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 25 May 2003 - 19:39:10 GMT

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    > On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 02:58 PM, Joe wrote:
    >
    > > But the point of your 'performance only'
    > > model is that only the action matters, The action of speaking is
    > > vastly different from the action of writing. Thus, the same words,
    > > communicated by these two different systems, even if they are both
    > > communicated in english, require completely different performances.
    > > This disparity of action leading to equivalent understanding is a
    > > fact that your schema cannot abide.
    >
    > There is nothing about the performance model as I and others have
    > elucidated it that I can recognize in your criticisms or attempts at
    > explanations of it. Whatever model you refer to above is certainly not
    > it. Perhaps you will elucidate this model you call 'performance only'.
    > It does not seem to correspond to the model I have posited, at all,
    > and thus it is not 'mine'.
    >
    > I don't, quite literally, know what you are talking about, but I do
    > know it is _not_ the performance model as it has been explained by
    > myself and others.
    >
    There is action and there is perception and there is cognition. There is between and there is within. There are meme transmissions, meme receptions, and meme storage, encoded in various ways (speaking, writing, neural nets, demonstration, etc.). There is the internal and the external. Without the cognitive encoding of memes in neutral nets, and their performative translation into myriad other encodings (speaking, writing, demonstration), communication cannot take place, and both the cognitive and the performative encodings of memes are required for this to transpire. It's not an either/or; it's a both/and.
    >
    > - Wade
    >
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