From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu 22 May 2003 - 20:12:44 GMT
>
> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 02:57 PM, Joe wrote:
>
> > So, you're claiming that Wade's performance model might be
> > sufficient to explain instinctual communication by lesser animals,
> > but not by great apes and humans, due to the problem of multiple
> > modes of arbitrary- and-by-common-agreement symbolicity?
> > interesting.
>
> That is interesting, although not in the way I suspect you think it
> is.
>
> Of course, the performance model does not _explain_ instinctual
> communication, it simply accepts it, in the same way it accepts
> breathing and hunger and pain and memory and social organization and
> grooming rituals and protective displays- as part of the nature from
> which we homo sapiens have formed. That animals and humans share this
> sort of instinctual communicative abilities and that culture is made
> up of such players, is granted, not explained. There is much to
> explain about how culture twists and turns that memetics should let
> behavioral cognitive science take care of itself. The performance
> model is ready to take whatever comes from such study in stride, as
> qualities and demands of the performer and the observer, and the ways
> they both perceive and interact within the venue.
>
> That we take all these natural responses and behaviors with us
> everywhere we go, especially into cultural venues, is simply accepted
> by the performance model.
>
> After all, we do have humans to deal with, not animals, when we go to
> see Macbeth.
>
> - Wade
>
But, and I re-repeat, the problem of dealing with multiple differing
modes of communicating the selfsame meme-type is insoluble within
the preformance paradigm. With instinctual and univocal behaviors,
this insoluble problem does not present itself.
>
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