From: William Benzon (bbenzon@mindspring.com)
Date: Thu 22 May 2003 - 01:29:46 GMT
on 5/21/03 7:11 PM, joedees@bellsouth.net at joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> Applying a biological analogy to human culture and communication does
>> not magically transfer biology's explanatory efficacy to psychology.
>> It gives the illusion of understanding but not the power. It's a con.
>>
> We DO know that information that Jack had that Jill did not have was
> transferred from jack to Jill. We know the semiotics and the genetic
> epistemology of the sigh-referent associations, and we know the power
> of language to allow these referents to be intentionally arranged in
> novel and meaningful strings which are coded in a commonly
> understood language.
Semiotics and genetic epistemology are interesting, but fall short on
details and mechanisms. This won't do.
> . . . . If that is not information transmission, then it
> does not exist, and you are simply indulging in a solipsistic dream when
> you type your objections to your alter ego. The 'how' is basically
> known, requiring only fine-tuning, as is the 'where' (the temporal lobes
> and association cortex and the mouth-ear nexus (hijacked by a second-
> order mutation, according to Philip Lieberman, from the hand-eye
> coordination system), including Broca's and Wernicke's areas and their
> connection via the arcuate fasciculus; the 'what' is rationally
> indisputable.
All of which is to say that you can't do what I asked you to do. You have
little idea of what's going on.
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