From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 16 May 2003 - 17:24:29 GMT
>
> On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 04:51 PM, Dace wrote:
>
> > So why are you promoting cultural behaviorism?
>
> It must look like that, I suppose, but, I'm not. I am promoting
> culture as having evolutionary processes, which is what I thought
> memetics was all about. I have to include behaviorism (in the form of
> behavior as an agent of cultural evolution), because the human animal
> is an agent in cultural evolution, and like all animals on this
> planet, is imbued with behaviors.
>
> But I am not declaring that there is no agency of 'free-will' or
> choice, or individualism, or that all behaviors are hard-wired.
>
> I suppose, yes, I am declaring that, because culture commands venues
> of performance, that there is a lack of freedom in any cultural
> performance, but, that is also ill-expressed, as the performance
> itself can be totally free (which is the case in all aleatory
> happenstances and accidents), but the continuation of culture depends
> upon the control of the parameters to the extent that quite often,
> people are trained to perform in quite rigid ways, a la all
> orthodoxies.
>
> Anyway, I'm not promoting cultural behaviorism.
>
> - Wade
>
But memetics, according to Dawkins, Dennett, Brodie, Lynch, Aunger,
Blackmore, etc. is about BOTH the cognitive evolution/selection AND
the behavioral proliferation of ideas/information, and that is what I'M
promoting. The ideational and the actional are BOTH ESSENTIAL for
the process to function, and NEITHER can be reasonably denied.
>
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