Re: Is there a country....?

From: Chris Taylor (Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk)
Date: Wed 14 May 2003 - 12:51:22 GMT

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    > It is worth keeping in mind that the abortion debate was won by
    > progressives (pro-choice) and divorce is also now legal and accepted.
    > Government corruption is being rotted out by a series of enquiries,
    > abuses by the Church are similarly being exposed and there have been
    > enormous improvements in the status of women, gays and minorities
    (like Travellers).

    Yeah I suppose if it is deeper than just legislation (and I can't really testify, I'm just going off my experience of here) then fair enough but do the vast majority of people subscribe, or just more than half of them? Bear in mind we're up against the dutch and scandanavian yardstick here. Certainly I'd like to say that Britain aspires to those things too, but even where you can argue that we've made progress, the degree of market penetration is far from total.

    Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh anyway - I think Ireland is one of the better places to live tbh (tbs..? Sorry.) - certainly more pleasant than here.

    Go n-éirí leat, Chris.

    Jonathan Davis wrote:
    > Hi Chris,
    >
    > I agree that there are racial problems due to an irruption of asylum
    > seekers, but these are fairly well handled and a vigorous anti-racism
    > establishment exists.
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Jonathan
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Chris Taylor [mailto:Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk]
    > Sent: 14 May 2003 11:04
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: Re: Is there a country....?
    >
    >
    > Collective desire for social growth (abortion, divorce)?
    >
    > Tolerance/pluralism? Just wait till you have a significant portion that
    > are non-white. Then the lid'll come off.
    >
    > I'll give you the rest of them though...
    >
    > Jonathan Davis wrote:
    >
    >>Ireland
    >>
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>From: Lawrence DeBivort [mailto:debivort@umd5.umd.edu]
    >>Sent: 13 May 2003 17:42
    >>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >>Subject: Is there a country....?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>Dear friends,
    >>
    >>What, if any, country or countries manifest the values of --
    >>
    >> - Learning
    >> - Interpersonal respect
    >> - Collective desire for social growth and evolution
    >> - Tolerance
    >> - Pluralism
    >> - Care for children
    >> - Curiosity, academic excellence, sense of adventure
    >> - Positive excitement and sense of creating the future
    >>
    >>?
    >>
    >>Your thoughts?
    >>
    >>Lawry
    >>
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