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From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: Jabbering !
> Flying, swimming or walking from one place to another isn't communication.
>
> Migratory birds have senses which give them excellent spatial awareness
> systems. What they don't do is phone up their dovecot for instructions on
> how to get home (or look at a map)!
<< Of course, everybody knows that !
But, what I meant is that Sheldrake has a theory which the dove ' connects '
in some sense with their dovecot.
He proposes that there might be a binding which implicates ' the not-local
bands ' of quantum-fysics.
For those under us, the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen-paradox.
What the truth is, I don' t know, but looking in those thing would end up
maybe in some kind of answer, but I think this not really the subject of
this
list.
We keep in mind though that everything we see and hear is not necessarily
wrong or something to make jokes about.
Regards,
Kenneth
(I am, because we are)
>
> How do dogs and cats know when their masters are coming home from work?
Two
> basic reasons for this. First it is Pavlovian, because work routines mean
> that people return at roughly the same time day after day and the animal
> tunes into that timeframe. Second, cat and dog senses in terms of scent
and
> sound are more acute than humans, so that the animals can here someone
> coming up the path, or parking the car before any humans in the house.
>
> I did see a TV experiment once where they had a camera on a dog and a
camera
> on a person going out on random journeys, and the aim was to see how
quickly
> the dog realised that their owner was coming home. It appeared that as
soon
> as the owner decided to go home, the dog went to the front door. I can't
> remember what the programme's explanation was (if it gave one). I think
> there is also the factor here that is evident in things like clairvoyence-
> we remember only those times the animal guesses correctly that the owner
is
> coming home, and not those times when they get it wrong.
>
> However, what is very clear again, is that the dog doesn't know it's owner
> is coming home because it phoned them on their mobile phone a few minutes
> before! :-)
>
> Vincent
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