Re: memetics-digest V1 #1329

From: Scott Chase (ecphoric@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri 09 May 2003 - 01:15:51 GMT

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    >From: joedees@bellsouth.net
    >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >Subject: Re: memetics-digest V1 #1329
    >Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 18:39:48 -0500
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    > > >From: joedees@bellsouth.net
    > > >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > > >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk, fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
    > > >Subject: Re: memetics-digest V1 #1329
    > > >Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:52:32 -0500
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    > > > > In a massage dated 5/7/2003 2:33:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
    > > > > joedees@bellsouth.net pathetically begs for attention:
    > > > >
    > > > > Dace STILL will not comment upon my paper, blah to disparage it
    > > > > would blah to disparage the blah he made which prompted my
    > > > > respewing of it, since they remumble each other so much, and he
    > > > > candide bear to graise it, because eyes is minimal. Those who blah
    > > > > reduce aboriginal work either criticize or embrace the work of my
    > > > > face's eternal modular apparatus.
    > > > >
    > > > > [Jake] Maybe its time for you to talk to someone other than Dace,
    > > > > Joe. Love, Jake.
    > > > >
    > > >Maybe you're right; Dace is certainly incapable of rational
    > > >discussion.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > Talking *about* him isn't going to yield any better results. Don't
    > > turn this into a grudge match.
    > >
    > > I may have been the first to broach the morphic resonance topic with
    > > Ted when he first appeared here on this list. I was in a playful mood
    > > and I thought I remembered him from a Sheldrake forum where we had a
    > > history of posting on the same threads.
    > >
    > > I'm no great fan of reductionism and I'd suppose you would probably be
    > > less critical of Dace's criticisms of reductionism if it weren't for
    > > your heated history with him and your dislike of Sheldrake's ideas.
    > >
    >Dace tends to label everything with which he or his idol disagrees as
    >reductionist, whether the label applies or not.
    > >
    > > BTW Joe aren't you a fan of Piaget, if I recall correctly? Piaget had
    > > some rather eccentric views of evolution and biology too.
    > >
    >Some parts of Piaget is better than other parts; however, the field of
    >genetic epistemology, which he founded, has the same relation to
    >phenomenology that memetics has to semiotics; one is a structural
    >snapshot (phenomenology, semiotics), while the other is a functional
    >description of a dynamic process (genetic epistemology, memetics).
    > >
    > > Besides, if Ted were a true Sheldrake worshipper and evangelizer, he
    > > would have tried coaxing us to read the master's latest work _The
    > > Sense of Being Stared At_, recently published if I'm not mistaken. As
    > > it stands, again, I might be the first (with this post) to have
    > > mentioned that book on this list, not Dace. Cut him some slack.
    > >
    >Hokay. It does appear to me, however, that he might not have brought
    >up that pseudoscientific prestidigitator's latest paranormal peroration
    >because of the less than ebullient reception which past works by the
    >wacko have received here.
    >And, remember, I just reposted a paper of mine that I considered to
    >have anticipated a line of thought he recently posted; he is the one who
    >responded with the initial vitriol.
    >
    At this point, if either of you offers anything of value to a discussion, it might be quite difficult for the other to acknowledge it or approach each other objectively, removed from the history of heated tit-for-tat. You two are obviously not on the best of terms and may start wearing list members out, except those who thrive on the aggressiveness of pro-wrestling style trash talking.

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