Re: Criticisms of Blackmore's approach

From: Bill Spight (bspight@pacbell.net)
Date: Wed Jun 07 2000 - 15:59:39 BST

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    From: Bill Spight <bspight@pacbell.net>
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    Dear Diana,

    > The meme as a "unit
    > of cultural transmission" as Dawkins first put it may be a much more useful
    > definition than the later "unit of imitation".

    In the FWIW department, I think that the problem stems from
    Dawkins, for a good, but flawed, reason. He had imitation in mind
    as the means of replication. In fact, the word "meme" is meant to
    reflect that connection, by its similarity to "mime" ("The
    Selfish Gene"). As a biologist, I do not think that he gave much
    thought to the details of the psychological processes involved.

    Blackmore adopts a very broad definition of "imitation", one that
    seems a strain to me. ;-) My guess is that she wants to avoid
    quibbles over terminology by keeping the same term but
    interpreting it broadly.

    The good reason for saying that memes propagate by imitation is
    fidelity. Without worrying about the details of the process of
    memetic replication, if it results in a faithful copy with very
    high probability, we can call the process imitation. With high
    fidelity we can apply well established ways of thinking about
    evolution, by analogy to genes.

    This is flawed, I think, because cultural transmission occurs not
    just through imitation. Learning is much more. In addition, memes
    are altered much more freely than genes, and this alteration
    occurs during transmission as well. Transmission has relatively
    low fidelity. Lessons learned about genetic evolution have
    limited application to memetic evolution. Attempts to apply the
    genotype-phenotype distinction to memes muddy the waters much
    more than they shed light, for instance.

    Best,

    Bill

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