Re: memetics-digest V1 #1309

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 09 Mar 2003 - 23:57:21 GMT

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    > On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 03:17 PM, memetics-digest wrote:
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    > > Performance is the television; the meme is the program.
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    > The _program_ is the performance- TV is the _medium_.
    >
    Turn the TV off so that it does not perform its communicative function and tell me what you see. The program is the semantic content, as its meaning/significance is both existent and contingent upon the intentions of its creators (as well as upon the cognitive gestalts of the viewers).
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    > Nomenclature, indeed.
    >
    > > the meme itself is the encoded semantic
    > > content which is thus transmitted, and the performance is just a
    > > medium by which transmission occurs.
    >
    > Interesting hypothesis.
    >
    > Explain 'semantic content' as a function of behavior.
    >
    Meaningful intentional behavior.
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    > Explain 'transmission' as the sole function of performance.
    >
    There are other reasons to act (food, sex, shelter, etc.), but to perform implies an actor and an audience, thus the function of performance is communication between them.
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    > And then, please, your explanation of 'performance' somehow being
    > 'just a medium'.
    >
    It is the method by means of which semantic content, or meaning, is communicated, if writing and speaking and demonstrating are all considered as performances. I have a hard time considering the solitary construction of verbiage spatiotemporally separated from anonymous possible readers to be a performance, except in the loosest sense.
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    > I'm not sounding like Dace- you're sounding like the soul's apologist,
    > and refusing to see the implications of performance and basic human
    > behavior within spatiotemporal bounds of culture (to more use your
    > terms).
    >
    No, soul implies baggage, such as material-substrate-independence and immortality, which I expressly reject. However, a dynamically recursive self-conscious awareness, complete with ideation, intention, will and efficacy, is necessary for specific meanings to be intentionally shared.
    >
    > - Wade
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