From: Grant Callaghan (grantc4@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon 09 Dec 2002 - 21:35:13 GMT
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>On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 12:04 PM, Grant Callaghan wrote:
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>>I think we have to define memetic evolution as Lamarkian for two reasons: 
>>1) the "seed" of an idea is broadcast to everyone withing seeing or 
>>hearing distance rather than selectively passed to just one individual, 
>>which these days means everyone watching TV, going to school, reading the 
>>same book or reading this list, etc., etc. and 2) the meme which is picked 
>>up by various members of the public does not produce a faithful 
>>reproduction of the meme that was spread in the broadcast.  There is too 
>>much variation for it to be a Darwinian type reproduction and evolution.
>
>Each performance is goal-oriented (aka lamarckian) (the performance itself, 
>as far as the performer is concerned, is only a goal, but the performance 
>itself is only half of the equation of culture), yes, but, each replication 
>may only have the goal of replication itself, so, while lamarckianism might 
>be a fair analyzation of some individuals' memetic processes, I don't think 
>cultural evolution itself demands lamarckian mechanisms, at all.
>
>And, evolutionary mechanisms are not presumed to be individual's 
>mechanisms, are they, regardless of the agency within evolution of 
>individuals?
>
>- Wade
If Mr. Darwin were still around, I'd ask him.  But then I can't ask Lamark 
for the same reason.
Grant
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