Re: Jabbering !

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    Richard Brodie wrote:

    > Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
    >
    > <<And one can find out just why a
    > peerrson wears a tie by _asking_ him why, by asking what is the value
    > behind the behavior.>>
    >
    > Doesn't this pose a methodological problem? How confident are you that the
    > answer you get when you ask someone the reason for a behavior is an accurate
    > one? In general I don't think people are aware of all the causality behind
    > their behaviors.

    This may be a historic moment -- I actually agree with Richard on this. In fact,
    the moment his e-mail was coming in I was composing a response saying the same
    thing. The more I know about people, the more I know that their answers alone
    don't tell you much. Some of the important reasons are that 1) it doesn't pay in
    most cases to reveal your reasons - it's called "keeping your cards close to
    your chest"; indeed, it often pays to lie about your motivations - and even
    believe your own lie to cover your tracks; 2) you may not know your own
    motivations - in part because you believe your own lies, but in part because
    your conscious mind thinks it has made a decision for one reason while your
    lower brain has actually made the decision as much as a full second before.

    PS: Although this is a historic moment, it is also probably a unique one!

    >
    >
    > Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com
    > http://www.memecentral.com/rbrodie.htm
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