RE: Jabbering !

From: Mark M. Mills (mmills@htcomp.net)
Date: Fri Jun 02 2000 - 16:00:13 BST

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    Vincent,

    At 02:48 PM 6/2/00 +0100, you wrote:
    >One key quantitative distinction, I suppose, would be the multiplicity of
    >means through which humans can and do communicate. Other organisms have
    >relatively few, and relatively limited means of communication in comparison.

    While we modern humans have multiple 'technologies' for communication,
    these are very recent additions.

    If memes exist among human culture, wouldn't they exist in technologically
    primitive cultures? Wouldn't aboriginal people of the rain forest have
    memes?

    As one goes back further in time, technology plays a smaller and smaller
    role in the 'cultural' sphere... family life, finding mates, defending
    territory probably occupy the majority of cultural habits (not that we
    don't do those things, now).

    IMHO, social habits express memetic activity regardless the technological
    advances. The technology (media in particular) plays to our inborn memetic
    processing styles, but technology does not define the meme. Communication
    technology is a side effect of human memetics, not its foundation.

    Mark

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