From: Jeremy Bradley (jeremyb@nor.com.au)
Date: Sun 08 Dec 2002 - 11:06:37 GMT
Snip........
>> >>
>> Joe:
>> >Other examples of environmentally suicidal indigenous tribes are the
>> >ancient Easter Islanders and the Anasazi indians of the American
>> >southwest. It is a meme and a myth, kinda like the old 'noble
>> >savage', 'ancient sage' saw, that older cultures were always wiser.
>> >>
>>
>>
>> Jeremy:
>> Look Joe, I know that I am a devout environmentalist but the only
>> culture that I am aware of which could be described as
>> "environmentally suicidal" is our modern industrial one. Just to touch
>> the edges, if the 'developing nations' were to 'develop' to the stage
>> that the affluent West has it would cost us another three planets
>> worth of resources, and the pollution would have killed us long before
>> that anyway. Peace, simplicity, and environmental care are what we
>> need for sustainability. If we could achieve those goals I would say
>> that we had reached a highly evolved state. Only low animals foul
>> their surroundings and waste their resources Joe. I am not saying,
>> "older cultures were always wiser". What I am saying is that it is a
>> meme and a myth that newer cultures are always wiser. Jeremy
>>
Joe:
>I just point out those two cultures as examples of cultures that killed
>themselves through depleting their available resources. It is a simple
>fact that they did, and they died; that makes them suicidal, even if
>unintentionally so.
>>
Jeremy:
As I said Joe, the trick is to achieve sustainability. Do you think that we
can evolve to such a state, or will we die out like the Easter Islanders?
Are we being suicidal right now with our war-mongering and polution?
:~(
Jeremy
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