RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank

From: Scott Chase (ecphoric@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed 04 Dec 2002 - 03:07:09 GMT

  • Next message: Grant Callaghan: "RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank"

    >From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
    >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
    >Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
    >Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:49:42 -0500
    >
    >Interesting thought, Grant...
    >
    Let me guess. You don't type the "On Behalf Of" part of your reply. Your e-mail set-up does it for you. Funny that I don't see "On Behalf Of Grant" in this reply to me ;-)
    >
    >Paleomemes and Neomemes?
    >
    I was afraid it might come to this.
    >
    >No, no new leaf. I find the term 'memes' very useful and productive, but my
    >definition is idiosyncratic to my own work, it would seem, though entirely
    >compatible with Dawkins. So I sometimes use the less specific 'ideas' or
    >whatever when what I am saying might trip up on the conflicting definitions
    >that people on this list use....
    >
    ><<Elaboration mode ON>>... Generally, I dislike arguments over definitions,
    >as the outcome is without true consequence, other, perhaps, than agreement.
    >My work -- fortunately! -- does not require the agreement of others on this
    >matter, nor does my work interfere with the progress that others make. If
    >using different definitions increases the chances that more people will
    >make
    >progress, than, in my book, its a good thing, not to be constrained by
    >requiring agreement on starting point definitions. <<Elaboration mode OFF>>
    >
    I'm trying to keep the meme idea at arm's length as long as possible. Remember my recent posts on the pink unicorns? But, I may see use for some sort of minimalist usage of the meme idea. It's the maximalist "theory of everything" aspects of memetics that start getting really off the wall.
    >
    >Hope this makes sense.
    >Cheers,
    >Lawry
    >
    >
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > > Of Scott Chase
    > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:10 AM
    > > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > > Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
    > >
    > > >From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
    > > >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > > >To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
    > > >Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
    > > >Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:53:16 -0500
    > > >
    > > >It might be more interesting (and more feasible) for the university to
    > > >catalog those ideas that have become obsolete or have died.
    > > >
    > > >L
    > > >
    > > Just as there's a division between paleontologists who study extinct
    > > organisms (as indexed by the fossil record) and neontologists who study
    > > extant organisms (as indexed in the biodiversity of the living
    > > world), there
    > > could be a division between those who study extinct and extant ideas.
    > >
    > > I notice you are using the term idea and not forcing memes into the
    > > spotlight. Are you turning over a new leaf?
    > >
    > > Some think they see memes everywhere they look.
    > > >
    > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
    >[mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > > > Of Wade T.Smith
    > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 7:46 AM
    > > > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > > > Subject: Re: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 12:46 , Sabrina Marr wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > make a list of basic memes
    > > >
    > > > Interesting concept.
    > > >
    > > > (The performance-only model allows no such catalog, of course, only
    > > > patterns, sort of like life....)
    > > >
    > > > But, perhaps there might be a workable list of speciations, if you
    >will.
    > > >
    > > > - Wade
    > > >
    > > >
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