From: Scott Chase (ecphoric@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed 04 Dec 2002 - 03:07:09 GMT
>From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
>Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:49:42 -0500
>
>Interesting thought, Grant...
>
Let me guess. You don't type the "On Behalf Of" part of your reply. Your
e-mail set-up does it for you. Funny that I don't see "On Behalf Of Grant"
in this reply to me ;-)
>
>Paleomemes and Neomemes?
>
I was afraid it might come to this.
>
>No, no new leaf. I find the term 'memes' very useful and productive, but my
>definition is idiosyncratic to my own work, it would seem, though entirely
>compatible with Dawkins. So I sometimes use the less specific 'ideas' or
>whatever when what I am saying might trip up on the conflicting definitions
>that people on this list use....
>
><<Elaboration mode ON>>... Generally, I dislike arguments over definitions,
>as the outcome is without true consequence, other, perhaps, than agreement.
>My work -- fortunately! -- does not require the agreement of others on this
>matter, nor does my work interfere with the progress that others make. If
>using different definitions increases the chances that more people will
>make
>progress, than, in my book, its a good thing, not to be constrained by
>requiring agreement on starting point definitions. <<Elaboration mode OFF>>
>
I'm trying to keep the meme idea at arm's length as long as possible.
Remember my recent posts on the pink unicorns? But, I may see use for some
sort of minimalist usage of the meme idea. It's the maximalist "theory of
everything" aspects of memetics that start getting really off the wall.
>
>Hope this makes sense.
>Cheers,
>Lawry
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > Of Scott Chase
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:10 AM
> > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
> >
> > >From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
> > >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > >To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> > >Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
> > >Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:53:16 -0500
> > >
> > >It might be more interesting (and more feasible) for the university to
> > >catalog those ideas that have become obsolete or have died.
> > >
> > >L
> > >
> > Just as there's a division between paleontologists who study extinct
> > organisms (as indexed by the fossil record) and neontologists who study
> > extant organisms (as indexed in the biodiversity of the living
> > world), there
> > could be a division between those who study extinct and extant ideas.
> >
> > I notice you are using the term idea and not forcing memes into the
> > spotlight. Are you turning over a new leaf?
> >
> > Some think they see memes everywhere they look.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
>[mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > > Of Wade T.Smith
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 7:46 AM
> > > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > > Subject: Re: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 12:46 , Sabrina Marr wrote:
> > >
> > > > make a list of basic memes
> > >
> > > Interesting concept.
> > >
> > > (The performance-only model allows no such catalog, of course, only
> > > patterns, sort of like life....)
> > >
> > > But, perhaps there might be a workable list of speciations, if you
>will.
> > >
> > > - Wade
> > >
> > >
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