From: Scott Chase (ecphoric@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed 04 Dec 2002 - 02:51:05 GMT
>From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
>Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:54:05 -0500
>
>I looked at the Wired article. Marcer, the PI, says that his real hope is
>to find out 'how humans think.' To do this, he says, one needs the map of
>ideas that he is proposing.
>
>Whether or not such a map can be built (I doubt it, strongly), and
>regardless of how useful it might be, I don't think it is necessary to
>figure out how humans think: thinking happens in the individual, and at the
>societal level in the form of what we call culture. So one can figure our
>the 'how' of thinking, without having to have a catalog of all the
>thoughts/beliefs that have been thought or held by human beings.
>
>I would also guess that the Wired article is pretty poorly written, and
>that
>Marcer may have more to him than the article suggests.
>
The Wired article said something about Macer proposing to other researchers
in the November 14th issue of _Nature_. Maybe there's more substance in the
_Nature_ reference than the Wired article.
>
>Cheers,
>Lawry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > Of William Benzon
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:28 AM
> > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Subject: Re: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
> >
> >
> > on 12/2/02 10:25 AM, Grant Callaghan at grantc4@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > They use the term "ideas" rather than memes but the concept looks like
>a
> > > meme bank to me.
> > >
> > > Check out: http://wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,56374,00.html
> > >
> > > Frankly, I think the idea is too big for a university and the number
>of
> > > ideas (memes) in the world is growing much too fast for any
> > group to keep
> > > up.
> > >
> >
> > >From my point of view, the most astonishing thing about this proposal
>is
> > that they guy seems utterly unaware of the large body of recent
> > research on
> > this general topic (generally know as knowledge representation,
> > perhaps with
> > an emphasis on ontology). Looks like he's setting out to reinvent the
> > wheel.
> >
> > Bill B
> > --
> >
> > William L. Benzon
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> > Jersey City, NJ 07302
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> >
> > "You won't get a wild heroic ride to heaven on pretty little
> > sounds."--George Ives
> >
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