From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Sun 24 Nov 2002 - 15:26:01 GMT
Yes, I think this is going to be seminal study. I am not the researcher, and
can only encourage reporting here when the status of the research is right.
Does anyone know of any other field research on memetics? If there is, I
would be glad to compile a list.
Cheers,
Lawry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Grant Callaghan
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:06 AM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Memetic methodology
>
>
> This project sounds promising. I hope you'll keep us informed.
>
> Grant
> >
> >A quick thought on memetic methodology.
> >
> >If one views a meme as having an essential linguistic construct, and that
> >the expression of the meme is half the act of transmission, and
> adoption by
> >another person is the second half, then indeed it would seem
> that we have a
> >measurable phenomenon, and one that we can use to determine the
> >effectiveness of a meme (its transmission), and its performance when it
> >comes up against countervailing memes.
> >
> >Using this approach, I have been able to track and map the
> dissemination of
> >a couple of memes through a society, and also track the mutations that
> >occur
> >to the meme as it is disseminated.
> >
> >There is a formal research project underway in memetics, by one
> of our list
> >members. Memes are being tracked in a locality, with a control group, and
> >measures made of the behavioral impacts of the meme. I think the results
> >may
> >be reported in approximately a year. Preliminary reports look promising.
> >
> >Best regards to all,
> >Lawry
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
> [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > > Of Douglas Brooker
> >
> > > > > I thought for a while that deconstruction had something to
> > > offer for the
> > > > analysis of memes, but now I'm not so sure. Looking at all the ways
> > > > >in which a meme is being used and all the antecedants it
> > > carries with it
> > > > >seemed promising for a while, but now I can't see where it
> > > will lead to any
> > > > >concrete results. Each person uses the meme he/she picked up
> > > in his own way
> > > > >and in conjunction with his/her own baggage of associated
> > > ideas. The usage
> > > > >is different for each person each time it is used. I can't
> > > see what's in
> > > > >anyone's head to make comparisons with the memes they are
> > > using. We can
> > > > >only compare the use of a meme with the memepool at large
> > > because it's out
> > > > >in the open. That's what deconstruction was about.
> > > >
> > > > That is right and that is why the search for quantifiable data is
> > > > problematic, IMO in memetics.
> > >
> > > it's not a serious problem in linguistics, so why should in be in
> > > memetics? you just need a sound data collection methodology that is
> > > memetics specific. what seems to be a problem, based on my
> rather small
> > > knowledge of memetics, is creating a meme-specific theory that is
> > > amenable to 'field' work that facilitates the creating of
> hypotheses and
> > > testing them against observable data. talking about the
> 'religion' meme
> > > or the 'terrorist' meme in very general terms, often just a disguised
> > > political discourse, verges on the inane after awhile, unless
> it is the
> > > object of your study.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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