From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 22 Nov 2002 - 18:47:52 GMT
>
> Snip....................Joe:
> >> ...the US has to be blamed for EVERYthing. I don't think you have
> carefully
> >> considered the memetic nature of the threat to postmodern
> >> civilization by a violently cannibalistic medieval memeset.>
> >>Snip.............
>
> Maybe that is what we have got Joe, a 'postmodern civilisation';
> everyone defines their own; everyone doubts the Grand-narratives. But,
> at the same time, everyone is civilised too. To think that this
> blissful state of affairs could be jeopardised by 'a violently
> cannibalistic medieval memeset', it's tragic. Now is that a medieval
> memeset that violently devours other medieval memesets, or just other
> memesets in general? And Joe, have you considered the effect, on
> existing civilisations, of allowing a new violently cannibalistic
> memeset to have political and economic dictatorship of the planet?
> Jeremy
>
No, the medieval cannibalistis memeset MUST devour modernity, or be
devoured BY it. It's cannibalism is a survival strategy; it can see itself
surviving only through conquest. Much as the Nazis did, the
Islamofascists appropriate the bloody 'convert or die' methodology; they
even share the same scapegoat. Actually, the Wahhabist strain that
began this mess is less than 200 years old, so we are seeing the forced
REgression of a significant percentage of the members of a once-
modernizing faith, which carried the banner of civilization between the
Roman Empire and the Enlightenment.
The US does not want to rule other countries; it just wants their peoples
to be free to form them and democratically choose their leaders on a
regular basis, and believes that, if this is the case, that their populaces,
out of the conjunction of self-interest and economic interdependence,
will learn how to play fairly and well together, and will direct their
respective governmental representatives to do the same (much as
Europe has).
>
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