From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 22 Nov 2002 - 05:38:53 GMT
> Good try, Joe. You and I have been around and around on this before,
> as have others with you. I realized some time ago that you were not
> here to learn, but to be righteous, and that you will repeat yourself
> and cut and paste the tracts of others here until everyone goes mute
> from exhaustion.
>
Oh, really? YOU'RE the one who seems to be attempting the self-
righteous and condemnatory course, but without the references to
support your lurid rhetoric. Evidence is a lot, and logic is more; I have
both and you have neither - only emotional appeals to the guiltily self-
hating among us.
>
> It is a total waste of time to discuss things with
> you, but it is entirely appropriate to call you what you are, and I
> leave it at that.
>
That would be nice, if you had the slightest idea whatsoever that what
you say is true rather than a vicious canard (hint: it's the latter).
>
> As it did with Joseph McCarthy, there comes a time
> to cease debate, and render judgment. I have rendered mine of you (as
> you have of me), and now others can judge as they see fit. I will
> from time to time call you on your more manifest sleaze, in case there
> are newcomers to this list who might be taken in by you. But beyond
> that, I have no interest in dallying with you.
>
I post considered opinions here, backed up by facts on the ground. I do
NOT post sleaze; even though you will sling the muddy accusation in
the forlorn hopes that part of it sticks in the minds of the more gullible
and malleable here. YOU are the one playing the Joe McCarthy role
here, calling someone who is not antisemitic that name for your own
twisted and demented purposes, as Tail-Gunner Joe engaged in Red-
baiting noncommunists to create populist theatre for the ignorant haters
among the audience.
>
> This is the first time you are called out for your anti-Semitism? So
> be it. You've earned it.
>
You have not yet earned enough brownie points with me to deserve my
contempt. I issued you a challenge to back up your words with
referenced fact, and you cowardly declined. I guess that alligator
mouth overloaded that hummingbird ass of yours, which means it's tail-
between-the-legs time for you.
>
> Is this a criticism of you personally? You bet.
>
Do I think you possess a scintilla of personal or academic qualifications
to render same? Hell, no.
?>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On
> Behalf Of joedees@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:16
> AM To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Islam and Europe
>
> > Nope, you have it wrong, Joe. The truth is that you scrape the
> > bottom of the barrel for the bottom feeders like "Ibn Warraq" and
> > Daniel Pipes, and you try and foist them on us as if they were
> > legitimate observers and analysts, instead of taking responsibility
> > for yourself for uttering their bigotries.
> >
> Where is the bigotry in their writings? I CHALLENGE AND DARE you to
> produce it. Hysterical claims of bigotry are the last refuge of those
> who cannot reason an issue out on its merits.
>
>
>
>
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