Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA01981 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 31 May 2000 20:06:11 +0100 Subject: RE: Primate Rights Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:00:48 -0400 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas est veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "memetics list" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20000531190058.AAA23641@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On 05/31/00 12:31, Lawrence H. de Bivort said this-
>Do you know if some
>or all of them suggest that apes in the wild do not possess grammar,
>compared to apes in language-oriented lab experiments?
I attended a discussion with Hauser and Howard Gardner in the
not-too-distant past, (Pinker was in the audience, but did not speak),
and, he is one of those who would be wary of using the term 'grammar' in
the way, perhaps, that you mean. I would say that Hauser would be among
those that would express that grammar might be an innate ordered
presentation of responses, and yes, he has found this, in birds as well
as some monkees. (He has not done ape studies.)
His work is very fascinating, and leans heavily into the
biological/behavioral/developmental camp. The discussion I attended was
at the Graduate School of Education here.
- Wade
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