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Vincent noted that "Apes do not spontaneously in the wild develop
grammatical language the way they do in the lab" -- I'm somewhat familiar
with some of the chimpanze ASL work, carried out in lab environments, but
unfamiliar with studies indicating that grammar is absent in the wild. Any
citations at and?
I wonder why chimpanzes would not have grammar in the wild. Is the
suggestion that they 'learn' grammatical construction from their human
contacts? By observation of the linguistic activity of the human's around
them? If so, this might be even more remarkable than their possession of
grammatical abilities, whether in the lab or the wild.
- Lawrence
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