Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA00610 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 31 May 2000 15:45:27 +0100 Message-ID: <B6E47FBD3879D31192AD009027AC929C368908@NWTH-EXCHANGE> From: Bruce Jones <BruceJ@nwths.com> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Jabbering ! Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:50:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
My take on Jabbering:
I have been off line a few days so excuse me if I step on a conversation
here!
na-na, ta - ta and similar mouthings and vocalizations are just like the
flexion of the muscles ... an exercise to learn to control the muscles
involved. The "primal language" argument is ...to me the same as the
meteor theory for dinosaur extinction ... good press-- no sustenance.
Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Van Oost [SMTP:Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be]
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 3:03 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Jabbering !
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark M. Mills <mailto:mmills@htcomp.net>
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk <mailto:memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Jabbering !
>
>
> This brings the scientists closer to the theory that all
> languages originate
>
> out of one primeval language. >>
>
>
> Kenneth,
>
> I'm not sure I see why this work suggests the 'all language
> originates out of one primeval language.' Where would the 'primeval
> language' originate?
>
> It seems more sensible to consider the jabbering to be similar to
> arm and leg flexing, another popular activity for babies. In the
> evolutionary context, practicing 'na-na' or 'ta-ta' seems equally useful
> for alarm screams as saying 'ma-ma'.
>
> Any idea why a 'primeval language' should be involved? Maybe I
> misunderstand your use of the term.
>
> Mark
>
>
> << Don' t shoot me, I am only the piano-player !!
> I found the article in a magazine, I translated it and have put it
> on the list.
> So, if you want more explanation...I can' t really help you, but
> that doesn' t
> mean that I don' t want to discuss the matter with you.
>
> Do have one of the members more bright ideas about the subject !?
> Is there an American list-member who has more insight in what the
> scientists
> mean !? Perhaps the full rapport !?
> It would help us here !!
>
> Mark, sorry for the misunderstanding, but we will drain this subject
> to its
> lees !
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
> (I am, because we are)
>
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