From: Vincent Campbell (VCampbell@dmu.ac.uk)
Date: Thu 14 Nov 2002 - 14:53:58 GMT
As the moderator has alrady pointed out, this forum is not the space for
this kind of stuff Joe.
Can I suggest that list-members who want to continue with such political
debates do so on an inter-personal level?
I'm not excluding myself from this, BTW, I'm not afraid of political debate
and feel that some on the list, Joe quite clearly, need to be more informed
about, and understand viewpoints from other parts of the world, not just the
USA (if, in the highly unlikely circumstance Tony Blair is a list-lurker, I
think you should take note of this too!).
It's just that recently the sheer volume of traffic has been beyond my
ability to keep up with (and hold down my job), and I find the list so
useful, entertaining and challenging that genuinely unnecessary, or tenuous
threads get on my nerves when I'm trying to find something actually about
memes. That doesn't exclude politics entirely of course.
Vincent
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> From: joedees@bellsouth.net
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:57 AM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: One man's opinion
>
> John Hawkins: Why do you think there is such a profound
> difference between the American and European view of the
> conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians?
>
> Victor Davis Hanson: There are a variety of reasons that can
> properly be debated about their relative roles. But we can agree on
> the general picture -- fear and appeasement of terrorists, rising
> Muslim populations (largely unassimilated) in France, Germany,
> and Scandinavia, inherent anti-Semitism, identification of Israel
> with the US as an overdog, proud power, guilt over past
> colonialism, financial interests in the Arab world, along with
> concerns for oil supplies, and generally the largely backdrop of
> easy and cheap ways of opposing the United States in ways that
> cost nothing but alleviate European concerns about stature, pride,
> and their own diminished role in the world. That is not to say
> there are not legitimate issues; it just explains why the Europeans
> would allow a quarter-million Muslims to be butchered under
> their noses in the Balkans when they had the power to stop it, and
> yet fret impotently over Palestinians far away. The end of the
> Soviet threat and the rise of the EU are creating a new tension in
> the West, and it will only quicken and manifest itself in ways well
> beyond disputes over the Middle East.
>
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