From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Sun 10 Nov 2002 - 19:45:41 GMT
Greetings, Grant,
Thanks for the summary of the Hamurabi Code. It bears virtually no memetic
resemblance to Muslim beliefs. Islamic beliefs are generally descended
memetically from Christian, Jewish, and Arab Bedu beliefs. Aisha, Muhammad's
wife and quite influential in his intellectual and spiritual life and in the
recording of his sayings and practices, was Christian. Jesus and Abraham
are among the prophets accepted and deeply honored by Muslims. Some Muslims
believe that the kaaba was built by Abraham and his son.
One of the principles of Islam is 'No revenge; no harm for harm.'
Restitution is the preferred way of rectifying a wrong, and there is a
monetary equivalence associated with many crimes or types of harm that
people can do to each other. A criminal can offer restitution and if
accepted by the victim or the victim's family, the crime and its need for
punishment is considered satisfied. This is quite different from the
'eye-for-an-eye' belief that we associate, for example, with Judaic law.
I'm not sure where Christianity comes out on this. Can someone fill this in?
What does 'turn the other cheek mean", in a criminal context? Perhaps
Jeremy can outline this?
As with many popular religions, practice varies from place to place, and
often for the worse. For instance, tribal Bedu law persists in some parts of
Arabia, and shows itself most dramatically in things like amputation of a
thief's hand. But I would liken this to the KKK lynchings and cross
burnings that permeated the US South not too long ago. Dramatic, but
exceptional. I have had the fortune to live in several cultures, and have
found that Muslim culture generally produces a society in which integrity,
modesty, kindness, hospitality, and spirituality are prized. I have also
found this true of some branches of Judaic culture, and in a few Christian
cultures, e.g. Amish and Mennonite.
Can you draw any parallels with the Asian cultures you are familiar with?
There are several sources I can recommend for those interested in finding
out more about Islam:
1. Visit a local mosque (Muslim, not Black Muslim) and introduce yourself to
the local imam.
2. Karen Armstrong's ISLAM
3. Isma'il al-Faruqi's THE CULTURAL ATLAS OF ISLAM
4. John Esposito's OXFORD HISTORY OF ISLAM
and, on fundamentalism, whether, Jewish, Christian or Muslim, Karen
Armstrong's superb THE BATTLE FOR GOD
On Dec. 18, 2002, PBS will broadcast a program on Muhammad and Islam. I have
seen some preview material on it, and I think it will be VERY good.
I can recommend many more sources to anyone interested.
Islam has been so maliciously portrayed in the US that it is a miracle
Americans can understand anything at all about it, or have any curiosity
left with which to pursue the matter.
Best regards,
Lawry
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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf Of
Grant Callaghan
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:04 PM
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: RE: Post-Saddam Iraq?
>
>It is so much easier to make enemies than friends, in life as in
>international relations. The real measure of a government's proficiency is
>that ability to make friends.
>
>Cheers,
>Lawry
>
While pursuing my interest in the sources of memes I ran across this article
about Hamurabi's code. If you remember I broke the line of conflicting
memes into the Persian line and the Greco-Roman line. Tell me if this
sounds familiar in the memes of the Muslim thought of today.
1700 BC: Hammurabi's Code
This Babylonian king came to power in 1750 BC. Under his rule, a code of
laws was developed and carved on a huge rock column. The expression "an eye
for an eye" has come to symbolize the principle behind Hammurabi's code. It
contains 282 clauses regulating a vast array of obligations, professions and
rights including commerce, slavery, marriage, theft and debts. The
punishments are, by modern standards, barbaric. The punishment for theft was
the cutting off of a finger or a hand. A man's lower lip was cut off if he
kissed a married woman. Defamation was punished by cutting out the tongue.
If a house collapses because the builder did not make it strong enough,
killing the owner, the builder was put to death. If the owner's son died,
then the builder's son was executed.
Grant
P.S. I was wrong to peg the memes at a mere 2,000 years old. It goes back
a lot farther than that. The Muslim memes seem to go back 4,000 years or
more.
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