From: Grant Callaghan (grantc4@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun 03 Nov 2002 - 22:01:52 GMT
> > On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 03:36 , joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> >
> > > That is not action; it is appearance/configuration/somatic
> > > structure. You illegitimately conflate genetic mimicry and memetic
> > > imitation.
> >
> > Ah, that is what I think those who claim birdsong is a meme do.
> >
> > Where do you stand on the birdsong/meme thingee?
> >
>I see birdsong as genetically determined, with minor variants introduced
>by interaction with differing environments.
> >
> > - Wade
> >
Does that include ravens that learn to imitate human speech sounds? There
are birds that learn to imitage the birdsongs of other birds. I don't see
how that could be genetically determined.
Grant
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