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Richard Brodie wrote:
> Because he's next going to ask you how drunk driving, chain smoking, and
> suicide benefit the individual.
>
Wrong again. I only want to know how it benefits YOU! :)
>
> Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com
> http://www.memecentral.com/rbrodie.htm
>
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> Of chuck
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> Subject: Re: Cui bono, Chuck?
>
> Robin Faichney wrote:
>
> > Could I clarify one point, Chuck?
> >
> > You say behaviour has to be useful, but useful to whom, exactly? Must
> > it be primarily of use to the behaving individual, his/her family or
> > part thereof, or the wider community?
> >
>
> The individual - which Dawkins calls the Survival Machine. The "community
> effect" if you will comes from the fact that social animals need to form
> alliances with each other. So -- the individual can be a legitimate unit
> of analysis.
>
> Although selection takes place at the "selfish gene" level, the aggregate
> effect must be the creation of a survival machine. On a probability basis,
> the individual will more likely form durable alliances with those who
> share more genetic material.
>
> Since I am sure you know this, I am waiting to hear the reason why you are
> asking me :)
>
> >
> > --
> > Robin Faichney
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