Re: I know one when I see one

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 30 Oct 2002 - 22:14:06 GMT

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    > On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 01:54 , joedees@bellsouth.net
    > wrote:
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    > > How can the observer do so after the passage of time unless (s)he
    > > has stored it in meme-ory? The short answer is: (s)he can't.
    >
    > The ingredients are available (or not) in their _memory_, not their
    > meme-ory, whatever that is.
    >
    The memory is where the memes are stored and from which they are re-meme-bered.
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    > You have not only multiplied entities by demanding a meme, but now
    > continue the factoring with this construct of a 'meme-ory'.
    >
    No, I haven't; a contained needs a container. And I have not multiplied entities beyond necessity; rather, the perdurance of the selfsame meme between tokens of a performance type is indeed a logical necessity.
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    > Memory and the functions of the body and mind are sufficient to move
    > the performance model, with no extra ingredients.
    >
    You have so over-reduced that you would compare us with sea slugs. But we can think so much more than they can, and because of that, we can do much more. The functions of the mind are, among other things, the modification and storage of memes between performances. If a choreographer thinks of an extra step in a routine and then performs it, you would have to call the addition an accidental mistake, because your behavior-only stance cannot allow the meme to mentally inhere. This forecloses not onlty token repetitions of types, but the mutation upon which selection works in order to effect evolution.
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    > - Wade
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