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I prefer to think that pacifism isn't an acceptance of domination it's the
acceptance that others need to dominate and the reaction to this is in
(generally) in non physical ways. Part of what I was trying to communicate
was that they were swearing military fealty before battle which is not
really an example of pacifism.
hair does grow after death so do fingernails. In Norse myths Hela, Queen of
the dead, collects the fingernails of the dead (grow like wood) and is
building a ship with them to attack the realm of the gods asgard.
Incidentally Russians intellectuals last century used to grow their
fingernails as long as possible to show that they did not do manual labour
it probably also signified and independent money source). This is a bit
like long hair or beards sometimes being associated with wisdom...though
this is more likely ageist because it takes time to grow a long beard and
hence the time to accumulate wisdom
>
>
> >In medieval europe the beards of
> >vassals were grasped by lords as a sign of domination...not pacifism.
>
> Pacifism is often an acceptance of domination, at least for the moment.
>
> >In preparation for
> >death they combed their hair. So for these peoples the combing
> of hair had
> >a great socio-semiotic value.
>
> All of which brought a rush of images to me, like beauty parlors, and
> wedding announcements, and mortuary makeup procedures, and 'le petit
> mort', and Irving Penn photos....
>
> And of course, the hair does 'grow' a wee bit after death....
>
> - Wade
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