From: Wade T.Smith (wade_smith@harvard.edu)
Date: Thu 17 Oct 2002 - 05:03:12 GMT
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 10:31 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
> So how can we distinguish memes from other types of behavior and 
> experience?
Well, from the behavior-only stance, memes (bemes) are individual 
performances within the constraining circumstances of intentioned 
observation, those constraining circumstances being some sort of shared 
communicative arena, i.e. a self-directed action before an audience that 
knows what the hell they're perceiving in some way, shape, or form.
There are also behaviors that produce artifacts for prospective 
audiences (and such behaviors are memes), but the artifact itself is not 
a meme in this model, even an artifact, like a movie, that presents 
behaviors. (Although the performances by the actors during the shooting 
of the movie _were_ memes (bemes).... Such are the demands of 
aesthetics, and of the behavior-only model.)
Any automatic behaviors, such as flinching from a fire, are not memes. 
(How far one wants to go with one's umbrella of automatic behaviors, 
well, I won't wander there- as I certainly have enjoyed the grass on the 
'all the way' side....)
No experience is ever a meme in this model, although, one can equivocate 
and contend the _experience_ of the performance needs to be part of the 
memetic performance itself, but I more contend that is part of the 
constrained perception, as one is also an audience member to one's own 
actions, if the self is to be considered an entity, and I think it must 
in any memetic model.
So-called 'trance' behaviors, or drug-induced behaviors, such as are 
culturally part of shamanic practice, are thus performances by a 
conditionally altered self, but all the constraints of the communicative 
arena are present. In fact, the shaman's performance is tightly 
constrained by the immediate cultural environment and its narrow 
communicative arena. This is why shamanism is not science. (Science is 
the human endeavor with the widest possible communicative arena, and the 
reason we can send gold plaques into the darkness. Shamanism is just the 
opposite.)
But, I don't know the full catalog of behaviors, as I am not, oh no, a 
behavioralist. I just think looking for memes in any other way than as 
behaviors is futile.
- Wade
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