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On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 04:28 , Steve Drew wrote:
> The second point is
> that, again from outside, religion seems to be about the individual in
> the
> puritan sense of the 'get off your backside and make something of
> yourself'
> England is the meek variety of love thy neighbour
What happened to that 'stiff upper lip, old chap'?
You see, I wanted to know what particular 'US view' you thought I was
seeing out of. I would never tell you stop staring out from under the
queen's skirts, even though you (as a nation) haven't as yet cut that
cord, even symbolically.... All generalities are false.
(Were I in the UK, I'd be a rabid anti-royalist. I'd also want to know
why you've been wimping around and haven't gotten rid of those
syphilitic parasites.... You'd see me ranting in Hyde Park.)
I'll admit I personally am untraveled. And it is my own humble opinion
that all foreign nations are seen from the outside by outsiders with a
certain narrow lens. Only real travel can present one with the diversity
of actual people in all cultures. And we all still fart and belch, under
all flags.
Is religion _not_ about the individual wherever it is? What is
community? When does a gathering become a mob?
Are we all reporters on the outside, and cogs on the inside? Where is
the line?
- Wade
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