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From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
To: <kennethvanoost@myrealbox.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: future language
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Chase <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
> Well, to make some crucial qualifiers to what I've said about diversity
> preservation, I'd not lament the loss of cultural practices like female
> circumcision, cannabilism, honor crimes or others of that reprehensible
ilk.
> Here in the U.S. we've managed to eliminate some of our more reprehensible
> practices and institutions like slavery and added a couple good ones like
> women's suffrage and civil rights though patriarchy and racism have a ways
> to go before going extinct. Good riddance when (or if) they do.
>
> But, I still think there's a lot to be learned and even more reasons for
the
> maximization of diversity, as long as said diversity doesn't involve the
> violation of basic human rights.
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I think you are in the wrong here concerning that it is a good point to
get
> rid of racism or whatever is being seen as " wrong " out there !
>
> Don 't get me wrong me, though, I recognise that racism is no good at
> all, but you can 't just eliminate it by making up laws ordering people to
> do so_ that implies, involves the violation of basic human rights !
> If, racism has a genetical or for that reason a memetical bias you just
> can 't forbid people to be racistic, it won 't work !
> If you do, you set up people against their inner themselves and that is
> in my book perversive to the extreme.
>
> In my country, Belgium, it is by law forbidden to express oneself as to
> be anti-semitic, we have a few anti- racistic laws to, even a centrum
> for equality and human rights. All for the best, I know and I presume it
> is, but try to understand what went on in our minds in the period of the
> Israel- Palestinian clashes. Pro- Palestinian demonstrations were beat
> up, basically due to the anti- racistic anti- semitic laws, where do you
> think my basic human freedom to protest was !?
>
> What Israel did played up my emotions and there was no platform, no
> public forum avaible left to express mine and our feelings !
> Do you think that is good or right ! I don 't !
> And concerning this thread, banning racism as a word can 't bann the
> fact of it !
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
>
>
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