Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA05999 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 9 May 2002 20:22:40 +0100 Message-ID: <003001c1f785$b03d4140$a5afeb3e@default> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be> To: <kennethvanoost@myrealbox.com> Subject: Fw: teleology and language Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 20:14:25 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
To: <kennethvanoost@myrealbox.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: teleology and language
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Douglas P. Wilson <dp-wilson@shaw.ca>
>
> > There is something right about that, although I think some of the
memetic
> > content of language is not "culturally accessible" since it is
unavailable
> > even to native speakers of the language, in more or less the same way
our
> > DNA includes a lot of sequences that aren't used for anything but are
> passed
> > along through the generations for reasons nobody has yet divined.
> >
> > Maybe there are no reasons, maybe they are just useless noise, but
people
> > like the late Lewis Thomas have seen ways they may be a vital part of
some
> > global genetic process. I don't really know enough about genetics to
form
> > an intelligent opinion on that, but when it comes to language I think I
> know
> > enough to state with certainty that natural languages are full of
> something
> > we don't use, some kind of content we can't get a handle on, but do pass
> > along to our children.
>
> Hi Douglas,
>
> Yes, I understand what you mean here !
> I would call such things ' nuances ' ( can 't find a better word), and yes
> indeed, even we speak the language they are hard to understand and
> mush harder to explain to someone strange to the language.
> But even that said, for the time being, I haven 't got a clue how this,
> memetical info could ( would/ should ) be transferred to the next gene-
> rations, if we exclude the possibility that memetical info can travel
> along with the genetical one. And than again, it is more of a feeling than
> real- word- like information/ meaning.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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