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As usual I am in complete agreement with you, Bill. Thanks for improving on
my thought.
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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
Of Bill Spight
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Thoughts and Perceptions
Dear Richard,
> <<As for truth making a meme more fit, Richard has a very good take on
> that, and, as I'm sure he'll agree, it's a fallacy at best....>>
>
> I think Dennett's idea of "Good Tricks" is the midway in this carnival
> sideshow we're having. Some concepts are so naturally developed from the
> nature of reality that we cannot help but form them eventually. While they
> can still be transmitted memetically to be sure (after all, didn't we all
> learn about Newton's Laws in school?), they are so clearly true that we
call
> them "discoveries."
>
> As Wade says, though, truth is not a prime selector for memetic
> transmission.
Fitness and transmission are two different questions. (Although related,
obviously.) I agree that truth has little to do with transmission. It
has to do with the question of survival.
Best,
Bill
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