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Hi Wade,
You're absolutely justified in standing up for the distinction between concept and reality. Even if Bill S. is right that the concept of gravity will one day be dismissed by physics, this doesn't change the fact that our current concept refers to something real. But factuality isn't identical to actuality. A fact is a concept that happens to be true, at least in the context of our general conceptual schema, which is always subject to revision.
Looks like the same semantic blind-spot that tripped you up last summer on "belief."
Ted
On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 11:08 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
> What actually happened was fact at every stage of the experiment. The
> concept just guided the experiment.
You betcha.
> What the word "fact" means is the same as with any other word: it
> depends on what it is being used to mean.
"Yes, that is what the _word_ for fact does," said the White Knight.
- - Wade
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