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If you think "subliminal" means "invisible" you are right... without
reaching your senses nothing can have an effect. But that's not what the
word means. Subliminal means beneath the level of conscious awareness. There
are plenty of such phenomena, both natural and manufactured. There's an air
compressor across the street from my apartment. Usually I don't notice when
it's on but when it shuts off I notice a feeling of relief. Even some
incidental music in movies could be said to be subliminal, yet composed to
produce an effect. I think we agree on this subject except perhaps you don't
have a distinction between conscious awareness and unconscious perception. I
think such a distinction is real and useful.
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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
Of Wade T.Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:37 PM
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Subliminal advertising
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 01:45 , Richard Brodie wrote:
> [There's a cartoon here in the book making fun of subliminals-RB]
And we can all be happy it's there, until...
> Does subliminal advertising work? Sure!
No, it doesn't work, in any real sense of the word. So, don't go saying
'sure!'
> Advertisers have learned to push your buttons.
Yes, they have. Blatantly, not 'subliminally'. As you say, there ain't
nothin' subliminal about a bit of tit.
- Wade
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