Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id EAA03089 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 9 Apr 2002 04:59:39 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: memetics-digest V1 #1011 Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:53:26 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F146ONvzyJxArG00002f1b@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2002 03:53:26.0786 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A91EE20:01C1DF7A] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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>On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 10:37 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
>
>>What you are calling seeing, I believe, is perceptions that we pay
>>attention to. The ones we are "conscious" of.
>
>Nope, just the opposite.
>
>>Any sudden change in my environment can trigger a refocusing of my
>>attention.
>
>And should. Survival mechanism.
>
>>We simply choose to ignore one signal in order to pay more attention to
>>another.
>
>No, 'we' don't do any such thing. Our perceptual systems do all of that
>for us, without our knowledge. 'We' are not our senses.
>
>>Perception does not take place in the absence of [categorization].
>
>Here's the nit. Of course it does. The stimulus _has_ to precede the
>response. The perception _has_ to precede any analyzation. The flood of
>input is constant. Now, granted, the perceptual systems as a processing
>of this stimulus ignore things that have been determined, through
>evolution and through experience, as okay to ignore. And, that sudden
>change is not okay to ignore.
>
>Letting this flood of input stream in without control is what I'm
>talking about- allowing it all to be 'sudden change'- because that is
>one of the roots of the creative act, removing the filters, for however
>brief a time (and it _has_ to be brief), to allow for a new focus, a new
>stream of process, for what is seen, so commonly and usually so blindly,
>right in front of us.
>
>Sight, perception, and then thought. And only the thought stage is ever
>a conscious process, and it doesn't have to be. When they are all one,
>eureka.
>
>- Wade
>
When they're all one is when you're not paying attention to them and
therefore not conscious of them. Eureka? It goes on 24 hours a day, even
when you're asleep.
Grant
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